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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:33 am
by abcdefg
Yeah the challenge is to make a bot that is not scripted but can adapt and react to new or different strategies so it does not have any major weaknesses. I know easier said then done right?
I thought aiur did a good job by sometimes throwing in cannon rushes if the circumstances were right. A lot of bots had no idea what to do and just followed their scripted out build order they decided on. That is example of bots needing to adapt and maybe like ualbertabot need to adjust build order on the fly to stop the cannon rush. There are plenty of other kinds of cheese bots need to stop to really be a challenge for a person.

Can bots deal with something like this? Im not sure I know how to stop this and some luck is involved in scouting it
youtube - bisu proxy gateway

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:17 pm
by krasi0
The bisu proxy gw strat definitely involved some very good micro and his opponent was definitely too slow in his zealot production...
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youtube - bisu proxy gateway
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:39 pm
by krasi0
epic bots battle
krasi0 2.20.8 vs sk 2.1 epic.rep

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:41 pm
by Myk
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epic bots battle
krasi0 2.20.8 vs sk 2.1 epic.rep
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Pretty cool game.

[spoiler]Protoss critique:
Gotta fix that early Goon pressure vs Bunkers/ Range upraded goons should just outrange a bunker, giving them tons of free hits on the bunker, forcing Terran to repair.
After the cheese was over, it was right to double expand, but I think getting leg speed and observers out faster would have been a bigger priority over just getting a ton of extra Gateways.
The big fail into Terran choke wasn't so hot. It could have done a lot more damage attacking Terran's next expansion.

As far as Terran:
The biggest thing I noticed is not expanding along the attacking side of the map. The 3rd expo was well-positioned, but the 4th and 5th went backwards and away from Protoss. As Terran, you always want to expand and attack towards Protoss (and Zerg). If you do it the other way, expanding away from Protoss and attacking towards them, Protoss units move around a lot faster than yours and a good Protoss will make you pay for your mistake.


Both:
Getting up ramps seems like a big problem, especially when an enemy unit is in range. The units try to do the micro dance, but it just makes them stuck and often dead.[/spoiler]

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:06 am
by krasi0
As always, well-founded critique. Thanks, Myk!
From all the mentioned, the biggest challenge of all is getting up ramps intelligently. The AIs currently can't predict the unit clutter that would be created when each unit is doing the micro on its own...

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:37 pm
by krasi0
A good rep of krasi0 2.20.10 (bio BO) vs KillerBot3
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0DevQU ... RZbGc/edit

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:43 pm
by krasi0

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:33 pm
by Taranok
I think krasi0 mech gets 'over eager' when attacking a base. Whenever there are static defenses, vultures attack and then just die, when they could have just sat near the siege tanks, letting those take down the base.

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:07 pm
by krasi0
Taranok, yeah, wraith's micro has this flaw too, but this gives tanks more vision.

Anyway, some good tvt games:
https://drive.google.com/?tab=mo&authus ... DZPbzNZZ00

Re: BWAPI Replays & Videos

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:43 am
by krasi0